So, if you actually do the work, go out and fail. With the modem, tu-tu-tu-tut. I think the mindset is the most important part. I say, “Why is money important to me?” Client says something like almost always freedom or flexibility just like, “Get me out of this.” I was going to ask you if I’m going too long, but I don’t really care because this is too valuable. Alice: Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? Good. Here you go. And be sort of aware too that they don’t even like the word, plan, like humans don’t like the word plan, mainly because, oh geez, there’s so much we can say here. So, I think a lot of times advisors just dismiss people like, “Oh, that was a do-it-yourselfer or whatever.” The other thing that I caught there that you said that’s really interesting I want you to dive into a little bit, you separately ask each spouse independently the questions and you also started with probably the less dominant from your read as far as who was speaking up the most. No. And so, I want to start a new chapter in vacation homes for our family.” Like, can you imagine, every time I hear that story, I think how did we not take the time and the husband now, of course, is like, “Oh my gosh, of course. I don’t want this to be like where we’re beating up financial advisors because we work with incredible people that really do care, but it goes back to your statement that I wrote down right here. We’re just going to use the word it’s okay, I just like use the word “goal”. [00:27:06] Carl Richards: And I’m going to make another really direct statement like it’s flat out it’s doing damage and here’s the reason. So, let’s go, let’s start with the doing public work. And oftentimes we’re so worried about our solutions, we don’t actually uncover what their problems are. Wednesday Keynote Speakers: Carl Richards, CFP®, Creator of the Sketch Guy column & Behavior Gap. And before you go, I’ve got a quick favor to ask. Welcome to The Society of Advice. That’s exactly how I would say it. So, that uncomfortable nature of it, lean into it. And he’s not good friends so it’s okay for me to beat up on it a little bit like 7-point font with like pages and pages and stuff. I’m sure they walked to the car and were like, “What just happened to us?” versus when they go to meet with your competitor who’s going to say, “You want blue? They do not care about your solutions. Due to crazy high shipping prices, it just doesn’t make sense to spend $20 to $40 to ship you a $10 book so please accept my apology and just go support Carl and grab a copy at your local bookstore or out on Amazon. Carl Richards Founder, Presada Capital Management Salt Lake City and Las Vegas. Right here. Wow. I can think multiple times where advisors will call in and we’ll help them actually build the plan on our side so we’re marrying insurance planning with asset management and they’ll be like, “Hey, I’ve got a great prospect. It’s really important to understand that I stole all this. Individuals and Families Your financial well-being is about more than investments – so we’ll take a look at your total financial picture to help you find peace of mind. Five stars. You have three options.” And as soon as he said three, I was like this happened with a bet too. Don’t make too much of it, but it’s interesting to see somebody says security versus freedom it tells you something I think. I think naturally, they want to just dive in like an engineer and start plan with all the different financial tools and explaining those and your book does a great job, The One-Page Financial Plan. Advisor, make this happen,” like that’s an example of a non-engaged situation. Tell me why. If they came into your office, how much work it took them just to get there? Today I’m excited to bring this conversation to you as I’m not sure we’ve ever done a deeper dive into the structure of a proper appointment process on this show and the psychology of why your prospects make the decision to either work with you or someone else. Content is provided for informational purposes only. I was not prepared. Yeah. I got to find a new surgeon.” So, I just say start from that position of professional confidence and then give people like shock people. Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? There’s going to be disclosure and all that good stuff, but just believe me if you understand the problem, they don’t really need to know the details about the solution. So, we’re getting towards the end here and I’ve got to ask you a few philosophical questions which hopefully we can get to. “Let’s some put some framework around this a bit.” And in fact, we’ll even use the word for someone’s framework. In fact if you’d like to connect on a more personal level, give me a follow on. In this age of like automated investment stuff and fast calculators and should we even use the word robo like please go the other direction like please be more human. [01:09:25] Brad Johnson: Okay. It hasn’t changed. Let me know if you listen to the show, how you found it, what guests I should have on, etcetera. For those of you financial advisors aspiring to write a book someday, you should go buy a copy of Adam’s book, Off The Record, one of the best financial advisor books I’ve read and great example of how to actually make finance interesting for your clients and prospects. We all know that. We specifically in all my writing, we try to remove footnotes, references, data, and studies because the opposite of what everybody else tries to do because I find if we include that, people want to argue about the data and they miss the point. So, funny how the world works. We specifically in all my writing, we try to remove footnotes, references, data, and studies because the opposite of what everybody else tries to do because I find if we include that, people want to argue about the data and they miss the point. So, let me just I think a couple things, mainly because I think we’re coming to a growing realization this is happening in other industries a lot faster than it’s happening in ours where people are coming this growing realization that plans are worthless without the ongoing process of planning. [00:22:50] Carl Richards: And so, all I’m saying is instead of trying to appear smart, spend all that time and energy training, practice listening, asking good questions and listening. Advisor turned wholesaler. My wife is why that came to be. For those of you unfamiliar with Carl which I don’t think will be too many of you, he is a CFP and creator of the Sketch Guy column which has appeared weekly in the New York Times since 2010. Yes it’s possible to grow your business and work less, this is a model we’ve replicated over and over in markets all over the country… So, if you’d like to apply to see if it makes sense for us to have a 1-on-1 conversation on how to overcome what may be getting in your way, you can do that at. For now though, Richards only expects some SSORFP T-shirts in the future. So, the difference isn’t that the fear goes away. We walked into, we went to meet with our estate planning attorney. Just think about this is like your golf swing and then bring that to meeting and sort of post-op meeting where you sit down and get a little feedback. Pam Houston who is a memoirist which I’ve never read like I’ve never read a memoir in my life. Age: 37. [01:01:35] Carl Richards: It’s been amazing. Actually, we were just talking here before we went live. 16:15 – 18:45 Carl digs into some of his hopes for what people will get out of The Fellowship, and Jeremy tells us what concrete steps he’ll be taking within his firm, and his life, following his graduation from The Fellowship (starring Declaration 4: We Decide Who to Work With). Numerically, it's the 7% gap that a 2004 Dalbar study identified between the returns of the average mutual fund in a given time period (12%) and what the average mutual fund investor earns during that same period (5%). And Bill I learned it from Bill from his book and then I also learned it from John Bowen and John Bowen is the one that taught me the word, The Discovery Meeting, and I know attorneys have been using that forever. Because I will say, “I want to do this,” and she’ll pause and go, “Hey, cool but what are we solving for?” and I think that idea of just stopping and say, “Hey, what’s the problem here? My wife is why that came to be. You have made a career out of very simplistic sketches and so what I’ve never heard, I’ve seen it. “I don’t much care where,” said Alice. What did you leave with?” I was like, “Well, I left with my daughter like that was cool.” He’s like, “No.” “But I also left with a piece of paper with some scribbles on it that I couldn’t even read.” He’s like, “What did you do with it?” So, I went to another place and I gave it to them, a bunch of scary people in white coats and they made me sign a document that said like if she grew a third arm within that. I’m not that way. Carl has a unique and refreshing perspective on the world of financial advisers. And I just mean you part of that chemistry that they’ve read about. So, Julie, what’s important about money to you? Well, and that’s just so important for like all of you listing like you have a really hard job and this is – everything we’re talking about here is just human nature. Because I know you’re a creator. We haven’t built a full plan yet for you because you have asked us to.”. I believe those. Richards has also become a staunch believer in the power of social media. Also, for those of you all listening in that aren’t aware of the incredible #fintwit community out on Twitter, there are some absolutely incredible minds freely sharing their work you should be diving into conversations with… too many to name, but some of my favorite follows include @danielcrosby, @iancassel, @jposhaughnessy, @patrick_oshag, @DefineFinancial, @jus10castelli, @AlexChalekian, @TR401, @ReformedBroker, @MichaelKitces, @jfc_3_. The prescription is going to be on one page. Cool. And again, it’s really hard, especially from a US perspective. [00:13:02] Carl Richards: Yeah. It’s part of the process and you’re going to be okay. But seeing the other side it’s interesting too. Let me just tell you one real quick like this is so important. Sometimes you just get in like one, two, three like you’re just building Lego blocks over and over and you’re not realizing each individual comes in with these fears and concerns. Yeah. The first thing you need to understand is why like the tactical stuff it should be obvious like I had no art skills. I was going into this to present him and he’s like, “Whoa.” He interrupts me like my wife did. With the modem, tu-tu-tu-tut. Tell me more.” “Oh, why?” Like, we just accept like clients will say to you, like, “What was your goals?” “I need 5 million by retirement,” like sometimes clients will come in not prepared and you, “Oh, 5 million by retirement.” You never took the – all I’m saying is like, “Oh, that’s interesting. Yeah. It was so bad, I actually took it down later, but we were just talking before and there was a serious lesson that came out of that that we were just talking about. Are there any tricks that you’ve seen advisors over the years use where they can get present and really get down to the core of, “Hey, this individual I’m meeting with I could change not only their life but their kids’ lives, their grandkids lives where they have something they do before appointments to get them in that state of mind?”. I just have to tell you, in preparation for this, I went and watched, rewatched a bunch of the episodes, listened to, watched, and thanks, Brad, like the generous work you’re doing for the community is amazing. Yeah. I’m Brad Johnson, VP of Advisor Development at Advisors Excel and it’s my goal to distill the best ideas and advice from top thought leaders and apply it to the world of independent financial advising. Thanks for listening in and I will catch you on the next show. [01:03:03] Brad Johnson: Cool. Good. Comedic as the name may sound, Richards is quite serious about this metaphorical group of "real" planners, as he calls them. It gives us a tool to engage with reality, but it doesn’t change reality. [00:41:05] Carl Richards: But Steve appeared disinterested. I just wanted to make sure. So, first, nobody saw it and the people who did. I want to – where is it? [40:32] The reason great financial services practices are more like therapy than simply a way to sell financial products. It’s just not true. So, I think what else happens there, and it’s really important to understand, those advisors who bring out the doc, I understand where that’s coming from. But I remember thinking like, “Hey, I could put this up online.” So, I started putting them up and it was irrational like illogical thing and my wife and she was right. It’s the sign that you’ve done something right like when you ask a good question, a good question, by definition, is something somebody hasn’t been asked before. I just go back. It really does help. They just don’t. It takes like five minutes without saying a word like reviews the question and then goes, “Okay. I love the conversation. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Elite Advisor Blueprint. So, it’s make a plan so we still plan. She just wrote a book called Deep Creek which was the last book I can remember that was over an inch thick that I finished. Producers are ultimately responsible for the use or implementation of these concepts and agree to comply with the compliance requirements of any broker-dealer or Registered Investment Advisor with which they may be affiliated, the insurance carriers they represent, federal regulations and state insurance regulations. So, none of this, “Hey, Brad, what do your kids do? Talk about the power of that and why that’s important if you don’t mind. IMCA 2016 Annual Conference Chris Geczy Interview Christopher Geczy, PhD, on the importance of doing well and doing good simultaneously for clients through in impact investing. Some of our most successful, our highest growth offices or female offices and it’s because they are treating them like real human beings and having a conversation with both sides and actually asking these questions that require thought. We’re going to sell the Hawaii house because when we built the Hawaii, all the kids and I remember is you being angry because when we built that in all the years we’ve been going, you are under so much pressure that we go there because it was like I need to escape, and we get there and all we saw was you impatient and angry. We’re just enjoying ourselves. I think the reason that’s so hard for so many of us is we’re scared. Of course, you’re excited because you know. I’m doing that sarcastically I know but none of that. He was the one that was the most talkative, but he was the nondominant in terms of breadwinner like Julie clearly made the money, clearly made the decisions, but for whatever reason, she didn’t feel like speaking up in that meeting and so that’s why I engaged her first. Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Images, Youtube and more on IDCrawl - the leading free people search engine. Find Carl Richards online. If you don’t like green, I’ve got pink.” So, anyway, enough about that. Totally by accident, right, like it was just sort of playing in traffic and hoping to get hit and that’s the only thing. [01:07:17] Brad Johnson: Next review comes to us from user elmorC, who says, “New loyal follower. He do the same things over and over. So, here’s what I love about your work. Let me just tell you one real quick like this is so important. Let’s go deeper and deeper and deeper until we get to the end root.”. I used to think that is a sign that I’ve done something wrong. 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