Firing a 210 gr. Such skepticism is apparently a normal reaction in the Internet age, when shooters all over the world can anonymously demonstrate their affected sophistication. In my experience, the round is a force to be reckoned with, but it’s also a finicky, eccentric beast when it wants to be. Nosler claims to increase effi-ciency. The three Nosler bullets all produced three-shot groups between 0.56" and 0.70" at 100 yds, with the smallest groups from 160-gr. Increase the gun weight by, say, 25% and the recoil goes down by 25%. As far as powders are concerned, I tried Retumbo before settling on H1000. Here I should comment on the difference between the three-shot groups most hunters shoot today, and the five-shot groups required by the American Rifleman testing protocol. The 28 Nosler, shooting a 180-grain bullet is within 50 Ft-lbs of your bigger and heavier recoiling 30 Caliber cartridges. The rifle weighed 9 lbs., 4 ozs. to be rechambered. This is a review of the cartridge, not the rifle, but I suppose setting the stage helps frame the rest of what you read here. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and … Look, when a new rifle cartridge is developed, itâs a pretty safe bet that youâll see a .30-caliber and 7mm variant. Give us a follow on Instagram (@TransientOutdoorsman) and Twitter (@TransientOutdrs) , or even Facebook, but that’s pretty much obsolete now, isn’t it? So whatever your muzzle energy, the same force comes back the other direction, through the rifle and toward your shoulder. But the more magnum shooters I speak with and the more time I spend recalling my experience with a .338 RUM I owned in the past, I’m becoming a real believer that these big magnums shoot best when they’re clean. As you can see in the short video the recoil is very manageable and I'm able to see every impact downrange. 22 Hornet. These figures exceed 7mm RUM Maximum overall loaded length for the .28 Nosler is 3.340 inches, the same as … Sure, you may need a few more clicks of the elevation turret, but no 4 legged critter would ever be able to tell the difference. 22 BR Rem. When shot from an 8 lb rifle, the 28 Nosler creates 33 foot-pounds of recoil. The rifle weighed 6 … The bulk of the shooting I do is on more economical platforms. With a break, they recoil similarly to a .270 with no muzzle break. Nevermind the electric tape on the muzzle! To be fair, that’s how I feel about all ultra-magnums. “Wow, that thing must Kick,” say the Fudds every time they see the rounds laying on the bench. There also happened to be a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope in the safe, ready for testing, but the only 30-mm rings in my rather large collection that combined well with the short-tubed SHV were Weaver Tip-Offs. The 28 Nosler has its eccentricities, but you’ll be hard pressed to find a better long range case to build a rifle around, especially if you’re a fan of long .284 bullets. Unfortunately, it couldnât be seated anywhere near the lands and still fit in the magazineâa situation Iâve encountered before with that bulletâand the one group I fired with it measured more than 4". The Nosler Patriot features the companyâs proprietary Model 48 action, a Pac-Nor barrel and a pillar-bedded, aramid-fiber stock. Yes, there are cartridges out there that will indeed outperform the 27 Nosler, but many of these will either be putting down far less ft/lbs of energy for taking game, or hitting the shooter with much heavier recoil. I can only imaging that copper fouling also becomes a larger consideration with higher muzzle velocities. What I’d like to do is give an owner’s account of shooting, reloading and hunting with this long range performer over the course of a year and a half. Before you start to think that I don’t like the 28 Nosler, let’s talk about what this round does in the air (external ballistics) and on target (terminal ballistics). Privacy Policy  ⢠ Contact Us  ⢠ Warnings  ⢠ FAQs  â¢Â © 2021 National Rifle Association of America. Nosler sent its Patriot model to me for testing in the spring of 2015. I’m careful to keep an eye on my neck tension, take brass prep seriously, and seat bullets with an arbor press and micrometer die. The 28 Nosler, shooting a 180-grain bullet is within 50 Ft-lbs of your bigger and heavier recoiling 30 Caliber cartridges. I’ve not fired this rifle without the muzzle brake, nor do I have an overwhelming desire to do so. Thereâs nothing as discouraging as a new hunting rifle in the safe with no ammunition to shoot. You have the same diameter bore with a lot more powder being pushed through it, and consequently a lot more carbon fouling within that same area. What it boils down to is margin of error. Not to me. Accuracy had also been a little better with slightly lighter loads, so the third range session used propellant charges approximately matching Noslerâs listed maximum velocities. 22 Caliber.224â Diameter. The brass problem could have been solved by necking up some of the supply for my .26 Nosler rifle, but there really isnât much point in working up loads without data, as traditional methods of âpressure guessingâ have proven unreliable since very accurate piezoelectric equipment became the industry standard. 28 Nosler Load Data. The .28 Nosler's case capacity happens to be the same as the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner, so if both cartridges are loaded to the same maximum average pressure (MAP) and fired in barrels of the same length, their … Late in summer, however, Nosler listed loading data on its website, and sent along 50 Match Grade brass cases, a set of RCBS dies and a box of 100 175-gr. The 28 Nosler adds considerable powder, thus energy, to push the same 175-grain bullet as … I don’t think that the 28 Nosler is any more work, expense or maintenance than any of the other cartridges in its class. Out to 400 yds. Nosler designed the 28 to work with a 1:9-inch twist rate, and so can handle the 175-grain bullets of the highest BC with no issues. The 175 ELD-Xâs shoot at 3150 fps and the 180 ELD-Mâs shoot at 3100 fps. I screwed around with with all combinations, charges and seating depths and nothing really seemed to give me better than 3/4-minute groups. The line now includes the 27 Nosler, 30 Nosler and 33 Nosler, but the second in lineâthe 28 Noslerâmight just be the best of the Nosler lineup. of energy, the 30 Nosler outperforms such touted rounds as the 300 Weatherby and the 300 Win Mag. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the worlds big gamewith real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. 28 Nosler Reduced Recoil Ammunition. 17 Rem. Partitions are among the most accurate in my .26 Nosler, and have also shot very well in hundreds of other rifles.Â. Push a 175-grain 2,800 fps in the 280 AI and it'll recoil 14 fps with 24 foot-pounds of energy in an 8-pound rifle. handloads at around 3300 f.p.s. 204 Ruger. Either way, Noslerâs parent case seems bound to sire an entire family of useful new cartridges.Â, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to:EmediaRifleman@nrahq.org For questions/comments about American Rifleman magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Rifleman, visit nramediakit.com for more information. I considered using the 195 grain Berger VLD, but everything I read showed no real advantage until the target is 1,000 or more yards away. The shooting world needs the new .28 Nosler centerfire rifle cartridge like it needs another in-line muzzleloader.But real shooters and hunters know that cartridge innovation isn’t about need; it’s about perfection! By Ron Spomer. A popular computer recoil program calculated the final loads tested at 34.4 ft.-lbs. bullets, and the first range session served to sight-in the rifle and see its reaction to propellant charge weights slightly below the listed maximums. This is match grade hunting ammunition! AccuBond Long Range bullets. Slower burning powders and high load densities will yield great loads. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as … Noslerâs load data included 150-, 160-, 168- and 175-gr. Other shooters have no doubt had different experiences with the 28 Nosler, but this is mine. Compare the 28 to a 7mm-08. Partitions and Norma 217 ran more than 3400 f.p.s.! Nosler 44148 M48 Long-Range Carbon Bolt 28 Nosler 26 3+1 Carbon. I don't own a 30 Nosler, but I've shot a Nosler M48 "Long Range" rifle chambered in that round and was really impressed. Well, yes and no. I’ve developed accurate loads for a grand total of five bolt action rifles. More Guns. Photo credit: Casey Johnson. Mag. at high muzzle velocities. The 28 Nosler isn’t quite the newest kid on the block anymore, but it definitely still holds interest for hunters looking to build or buy a powerful magnum of the 7mm variety. 220 Swift. The 30 Nosler shoulder is .051" farther back than the 28 Nosler, so the 28 actually has more capacity than the 30. the 160 shoots a little flatter than the 175 ABLR and doesnât drift significantly more in the wind. The .28-cal., 175-gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip (among the heavier-jacketed boattails, so a good choice in 7 mm magnums), 160-gr. Mag. Most hunters believe (because theyâve been told so time and time again) that groups from sporter-weight barrels open up after three rounds, because the barrel starts to warp from accumulated heat. He wasn’t quite prepared for the recoil when the rifle was mounted on his shoulder over a puffy coat. So I won’t cover those here. COVID-19 is resulting in increased processing times (10-14 business days). As I mentioned, this round has a weird quirk. Get the American Rifleman Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and moreâdelivered directly to your Inbox. Now, I’ve spoken with gunsmiths who think I’m insane, and I’ve spoken with one that agrees with me wholeheartedly. This can be true, but in reality five-shot groups from any rifle almost always average larger than three-shot groups, even a benchrest rifle capable of shooting groups only slightly larger than bullet diameter. The barrel is a 26” carbon fiber sendero with a 1:8.44 twist, tipped with a three-port Area 419 muzzle brake. To many people that’s overkill for a hunting rifle, and to a scant few guys I know, 1/2 MOA is barely acceptable. Noslerâs accuracy guarantees are for three-shot groups at 100 yds, and theyâll average about two-thirds the size as the five-shot averages listed in the range test data. Meanwhile, some of us retain a little innate curiosity. 22-250 Rem. Maybe I should have been happy with my results, considering that many ultra-mag calibers can be touchy, and most never shoot as well as smaller rounds. Joined Dec 1, 2014 Messages 1,837. 225 Win. ), Traditionalists who donât shoot much beyond 400 yds., however, might prefer the 160 Partition, a well-proven bullet on big game from Alaska to Africa. As a side note, itâs normally not a good idea to mount an untested scope on a new rifle, because if anomalies occur itâs hard to tell whether the scope or rifle is at fault. Retumbo, as temperature stable as it is, is a very dirty powder (lots of carbon fouling), and I came to learn that the 28 Nosler (mine and a few others) is very sensitive to fouling. They might be an unstylish accessorizing choice when connecting $3,000 of scope and rifle, but through the decades, Weaverâs âold ugliesâ have performed perfectly on many of my rifles, including a rather light .416 Rem. The consensus answer was a magnum 30 kicks like a magnum 30 and it matters little if itâs a Weatherby or a Winchester or a Nosler. Of course, as soon as Nosler announced the .28 many asked, âWhy bother?â since the list of 7 mm big-game rounds compares to the Fortune 500. Shooting 180s it had very similar recoil to my 7mm Rem. Whatâs next for Noslerâs case? Nosler ABLR bullet is 1.541" long. 221 Rem Fireball. As you can see in the short video the recoil is very manageable and I'm able to see every impact downrange. The 7mm and the 28 Nosler specifically is great for taking large American game animals such as elk, moose, and even grizzly bear. Recoil of the .30 Nosler was my question too, and I happened to ask it to a group of gun writers who had shot the .30 Nosler at the SCA show last winter. The .28 Nosler does exhibit more recoil than most 7 mm magnums, about like a smaller .30-cal. 20 Caliber.204” Diameter. Some of our best are with Norma 217 and RL 33, but other propellants of similar speed give excellent … I have shot three .28 Noslers, and with brakes on each of them, recoil was very, very, manageable. Add all these factors together, and the 28 Nosler pushes 7 mm bullets capable of taking 99 percent of the worldâs big game at very high velocities, with small but real long-range advantages in both trajectory and wind drift compared to .30-cal. Comparison. Shoot a 28! Two of my other ultralight hunting rifles (a 300 WSM and a 6.5 Creedmoor) shoot one-hole groups, but I’ve never bested 1/2 MOA accuracy with the 28. 222 Rem Mag. The gun shoots well if I clean it every 20 rounds or so. Since Nosler factory ammunition wasnât then available, handloads would have to do. 22 PPC-USA. In order to send the heavy bullet downrange with that much power, The 28 Nosler creates quite a kick. Yeah, we can use even heavier bullets in .30s, but relatively few shooters are recoil-resistant enough to accurately shoot bullets over 200 grs. This is due to the laws of chance, even if we wait five minutes between shots to allow our barrel to coolâwhich is often wasted waiting. Shoot a 28! I use good equipment, but I’m not measuring charges down to the kernel. It will do everything the 28 nosler will do, just less recoil and powder. Necking the .26 to 7 mm will increase barrel life somewhat, and provide the same high-performance zip with heavier bullets. 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